retrohatao
02-08 04:28 PM
Description of the process:
When USCIS receives a 485 application immediately upon receipt of the application, requests FBI/Homeland
Security for security clearence. USCIS waits for the security clearance from FBI indefinitely till it
receives a reply. FBI after doing the security checks ( the process involves checking the name against
potential threats to US, background checks what not) provides USCIS with "YES/NO" answer. If the answer
is "YES" USCIS clears the case and if it is NO your case would be rejected.
After 9/11 the problem is that FBI is not clearing the cases. Applicants like me have been waiting more
than 2-4 years.FBI used to provide the status over phone/e-mail. Oflate they have decided not do any more.
It is just like a blackhole and no one is there for you to provide the status/answer queries.
Here is the thread one needs to look at if you would like to know more about the problem:
http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=174845
Solution:
1.Its an interagency issue. USCIS need to follow up at constant intervals.
2. FBI need to publish a monthly status report just like USCIS to give the time line of processing
of the cases.
3. There should be a definite time line for clearing the cases.
4. There should be a grievance addressing system for the cases delayed indefinitely.
Ultimately it is in the interest of the country. If you think someone is dangerous, you would
not want him/her to be in the country freely roaming on a EAD. Right?
I have asked the folks on the immigrationportal.com forum to generate more ideas. let us see if some one can add
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When USCIS receives a 485 application immediately upon receipt of the application, requests FBI/Homeland
Security for security clearence. USCIS waits for the security clearance from FBI indefinitely till it
receives a reply. FBI after doing the security checks ( the process involves checking the name against
potential threats to US, background checks what not) provides USCIS with "YES/NO" answer. If the answer
is "YES" USCIS clears the case and if it is NO your case would be rejected.
After 9/11 the problem is that FBI is not clearing the cases. Applicants like me have been waiting more
than 2-4 years.FBI used to provide the status over phone/e-mail. Oflate they have decided not do any more.
It is just like a blackhole and no one is there for you to provide the status/answer queries.
Here is the thread one needs to look at if you would like to know more about the problem:
http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=174845
Solution:
1.Its an interagency issue. USCIS need to follow up at constant intervals.
2. FBI need to publish a monthly status report just like USCIS to give the time line of processing
of the cases.
3. There should be a definite time line for clearing the cases.
4. There should be a grievance addressing system for the cases delayed indefinitely.
Ultimately it is in the interest of the country. If you think someone is dangerous, you would
not want him/her to be in the country freely roaming on a EAD. Right?
I have asked the folks on the immigrationportal.com forum to generate more ideas. let us see if some one can add
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akred
01-21 02:26 AM
Assuming everyone stays the course, under these timelines
1. At least 5% of applicants will be sponsored by their American children.
2. Another 5% will have their first million and move to the investor's category.
The timelines would be a maximum of 20 years or so, at which point people would be sponsored by their children.
1. At least 5% of applicants will be sponsored by their American children.
2. Another 5% will have their first million and move to the investor's category.
The timelines would be a maximum of 20 years or so, at which point people would be sponsored by their children.
Slumdog
01-17 03:07 PM
Xyzgc, Relax out there. You are taking it very personal. For you this may be bulshitting but in tough economic times
Like this my story might be a reality for lot of people or could very well face in coming days & months. I put out my experience out there so people will read & be cautious & use their good judgement. I am happy for you that you were able to make all right decisions in your life. Let others read & decide what is best for them.
Like this my story might be a reality for lot of people or could very well face in coming days & months. I put out my experience out there so people will read & be cautious & use their good judgement. I am happy for you that you were able to make all right decisions in your life. Let others read & decide what is best for them.
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abhijitp
07-23 08:07 PM
Employer is happy to give
I wonder if not providing the emlpoyment letter helps ensure that you cannot switch jobs easily using AC-21? I hope I am wrong. Experts please opine.
I wonder if not providing the emlpoyment letter helps ensure that you cannot switch jobs easily using AC-21? I hope I am wrong. Experts please opine.
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HV000
03-19 01:26 PM
My understanding is that at the time of approval, priority date of the petition must be in accordance with current visa bulletin for visa number availability.
In short, in my opinion..the answer is NO
Wouldn't they atleast get pre-adjudicated if NOT approved??
In short, in my opinion..the answer is NO
Wouldn't they atleast get pre-adjudicated if NOT approved??
reddymjm
08-10 01:51 PM
I am in for it.
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Jaime
09-13 03:47 AM
Tens of thousands guys! We can do this!!!!! All of you within driving or train distance of DC, see you there guys!!!!!!
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Imm_Exploited
03-16 11:19 PM
Dear amsgc,
Just want to compliment you for your much balanced and cool response.
IE
Well, the fuss is not just about the wait - it about the seemingly interminable wait. Why should there be a wait of 5-6 years to get a green card, when you can get EAD in less than 3 months, or a visa to work in less than 2 weeks?
If the US govt. can decide that you have the qualifications to do a job (H1B premium), in 2 weeks flat, then why should a green card based on the same employment take 5-6 years?
Why should the wait for an Indian or Chinese be 5-6 years, but others be less than a year? At the moment, a cook from bangladesh is getting the GC before a doctor from India. Was this the intent of those who designed the EB "preference" system?
If you have infinite patience for GC, then that is good for you. But just waiting and scratching is not in my character, nor is it in 99% of fellow IVians.
Just want to compliment you for your much balanced and cool response.
IE
Well, the fuss is not just about the wait - it about the seemingly interminable wait. Why should there be a wait of 5-6 years to get a green card, when you can get EAD in less than 3 months, or a visa to work in less than 2 weeks?
If the US govt. can decide that you have the qualifications to do a job (H1B premium), in 2 weeks flat, then why should a green card based on the same employment take 5-6 years?
Why should the wait for an Indian or Chinese be 5-6 years, but others be less than a year? At the moment, a cook from bangladesh is getting the GC before a doctor from India. Was this the intent of those who designed the EB "preference" system?
If you have infinite patience for GC, then that is good for you. But just waiting and scratching is not in my character, nor is it in 99% of fellow IVians.
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nixstor
07-04 09:33 PM
[QUOTE=nixstor]Excellent analysis but it does have flaws
I am sure you might have read this from murthy's website (http://www.murthy.com/news/n_dosebn.html) or not, but DOS/CA/VO officials shared this piece with them. As per the above article, final quarter quota should not open until Jul 2nd. I understand that agencies can implement and interpret certain stuff, but you cannot interpret and implement one thing on Jun 13th and another on Jul 2nd. If its written into law, that the quarterly allocation is a must, USCIS is in violation and DOS/CA/VO as well for not policing them of visa number usage.
"Essentially, the numbers are spread out during the first three quarters and whatever is left is available during the last quarter"
On reading the Murthy article it appears that the biggest mistake USCIS committed was using up the visa numbers before the 4th qtr began on 7/2/07.
USCIS did it other way around...desparately rushed to use up the numbers before the 4th qtr began....only explanation is to avoid doing additional paperwork for the July filers...
Its not the paper work guys. They will love the money on EAD & AP. Its the huge backlog that will remain for ever on their hump unless a recapture occurs. Due to lack of communication or what ever, DOS made every category current. The only way they can escape from accepting our applications is by using up all numbers. Thats what they essentially did. AFAIK, DOS gets updates from USCIS and CP's across the world about the number of visas they have used in the past month. DOS then prepares the VB. Assuming USCIS told DOS that they have used 80/90K for the fiscal year so far, DOS is left with 60/50K for the last quarter of the fiscal year. How can DOS imagine/understand availability of 50/60k visas to be less demand for EB categories? This is what exactly the initial July VB said and we were all stupefied. They know this in and out and a simple request for pending number of 485's from years, approved & pending 140's since retrogression hit & that do not have a adjoining 485 should come out conservatively to 150-200K. Does DOS ask this as a part of their monthly information gathering process? Yes, they does is the simple answer. Then what led to the making VB current is the esoteric Q here. USCIS will have allocated the numbers at their own pace if the VB was not made current. As the VB was made current, USCIS was forced to use all the numbers and say that there are no numbers. Unless, we hear more stuff from the offices of DOS/USCIS in response to Rep Lofgren, every thing will be speculation.
I am sure you might have read this from murthy's website (http://www.murthy.com/news/n_dosebn.html) or not, but DOS/CA/VO officials shared this piece with them. As per the above article, final quarter quota should not open until Jul 2nd. I understand that agencies can implement and interpret certain stuff, but you cannot interpret and implement one thing on Jun 13th and another on Jul 2nd. If its written into law, that the quarterly allocation is a must, USCIS is in violation and DOS/CA/VO as well for not policing them of visa number usage.
"Essentially, the numbers are spread out during the first three quarters and whatever is left is available during the last quarter"
On reading the Murthy article it appears that the biggest mistake USCIS committed was using up the visa numbers before the 4th qtr began on 7/2/07.
USCIS did it other way around...desparately rushed to use up the numbers before the 4th qtr began....only explanation is to avoid doing additional paperwork for the July filers...
Its not the paper work guys. They will love the money on EAD & AP. Its the huge backlog that will remain for ever on their hump unless a recapture occurs. Due to lack of communication or what ever, DOS made every category current. The only way they can escape from accepting our applications is by using up all numbers. Thats what they essentially did. AFAIK, DOS gets updates from USCIS and CP's across the world about the number of visas they have used in the past month. DOS then prepares the VB. Assuming USCIS told DOS that they have used 80/90K for the fiscal year so far, DOS is left with 60/50K for the last quarter of the fiscal year. How can DOS imagine/understand availability of 50/60k visas to be less demand for EB categories? This is what exactly the initial July VB said and we were all stupefied. They know this in and out and a simple request for pending number of 485's from years, approved & pending 140's since retrogression hit & that do not have a adjoining 485 should come out conservatively to 150-200K. Does DOS ask this as a part of their monthly information gathering process? Yes, they does is the simple answer. Then what led to the making VB current is the esoteric Q here. USCIS will have allocated the numbers at their own pace if the VB was not made current. As the VB was made current, USCIS was forced to use all the numbers and say that there are no numbers. Unless, we hear more stuff from the offices of DOS/USCIS in response to Rep Lofgren, every thing will be speculation.
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hpandey
03-12 12:14 PM
Dude,
Don't embarrass yourself with your IQ, you have only 25 some of posts, I have been here long enough and understand IV more than you. Please keep your smartness to yourself.
point at consistency, ? If you don't have one then shuv it up. I have been urging IV for a long time to do something big, anyone who has that question can go in history Forums, and read.
Thank you,
You don't understand IV or else you would not say SHAME on YOU to IV. What can IV do without money and no support from people. IV does a lot of meetings with govt departments and Washington. At least someone is aware of our problems.
I have seen a number of times IV core requesting people to come forward to give their stories for articles in prominent newspapers who contact IV to put our point of view forward. Even for that except 1 or 2 no one else comes forward.
We pay thousands of dollars to lawyers , USCIS etc etc and still we haven't got a GC and you have paid zero to IV and expect IV to get you a GC . Isn't that some twisted logic.
I think you should demand your LAWYER and USCIS to give you the GC since you have paid them thousands . IV doesn't owe you anything at all especially Pappu who is the public face of IV on this forum and puts in so much of his time.
Don't embarrass yourself with your IQ, you have only 25 some of posts, I have been here long enough and understand IV more than you. Please keep your smartness to yourself.
point at consistency, ? If you don't have one then shuv it up. I have been urging IV for a long time to do something big, anyone who has that question can go in history Forums, and read.
Thank you,
You don't understand IV or else you would not say SHAME on YOU to IV. What can IV do without money and no support from people. IV does a lot of meetings with govt departments and Washington. At least someone is aware of our problems.
I have seen a number of times IV core requesting people to come forward to give their stories for articles in prominent newspapers who contact IV to put our point of view forward. Even for that except 1 or 2 no one else comes forward.
We pay thousands of dollars to lawyers , USCIS etc etc and still we haven't got a GC and you have paid zero to IV and expect IV to get you a GC . Isn't that some twisted logic.
I think you should demand your LAWYER and USCIS to give you the GC since you have paid them thousands . IV doesn't owe you anything at all especially Pappu who is the public face of IV on this forum and puts in so much of his time.
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EB2_Jun03_dude
04-25 10:08 AM
"Application Type: I485 , APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS
Current Status: Card production ordered.
On April 25, 2008, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you." :) :)
I had a soft LUD on 4/22 and now this :) :).
Btw: I did not get any email for my wife's case(derivative application) which is pending at the Newark, NJ office(interview done in Feb 08') !
Current Status: Card production ordered.
On April 25, 2008, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you." :) :)
I had a soft LUD on 4/22 and now this :) :).
Btw: I did not get any email for my wife's case(derivative application) which is pending at the Newark, NJ office(interview done in Feb 08') !
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coolmanasip
03-07 10:14 AM
could not agree more!!! you really just get one life.....And you know what, the unhappiness plays on your mind and body and lifestyle........
I resigned this week........they are giving me all sorts of hell about it but I am happy I will go to a new place and pursue all the opportunities I ever wanted to....
I resigned this week........they are giving me all sorts of hell about it but I am happy I will go to a new place and pursue all the opportunities I ever wanted to....
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tikka
07-04 08:32 AM
Veerug,
I understand your concern. But $5000 was just number put by me as target.. I am sure we need more then that.. I feel if we put some target then people contribute and try to achieve it. But core member never said we just need $5000. So please don't stick with that number.. That number was just target that I thought we could meet. If you ask core members they going to say that we need more then that. As you know everything needs money.. Core is putting their time and mmoney and doing this all for everybody.. At least we can do is act on their action items.
Hope this makes little sense.
Thanks.
Based on the volume of folks logged in funding team sets a target.. to be reached.
Veerug if you have not can you please DIGG!!
if you have many thanks :)
I understand your concern. But $5000 was just number put by me as target.. I am sure we need more then that.. I feel if we put some target then people contribute and try to achieve it. But core member never said we just need $5000. So please don't stick with that number.. That number was just target that I thought we could meet. If you ask core members they going to say that we need more then that. As you know everything needs money.. Core is putting their time and mmoney and doing this all for everybody.. At least we can do is act on their action items.
Hope this makes little sense.
Thanks.
Based on the volume of folks logged in funding team sets a target.. to be reached.
Veerug if you have not can you please DIGG!!
if you have many thanks :)
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ita
09-10 11:09 AM
I'm not able to figure out how to post a mssg in chat..is it 'coz I'm restricted or something? At the bottom of the page I see my name as logged in members though..I've over 150 posts and 4 dots..not enough for access to chat or is it that I'm not able to figure out how to post mssgs? Appreciate it if someone can explain it to me.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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ak_2006
06-10 12:36 PM
Thanks Pappu to bring this to every notice of IV Community. It looks like they want to send every body out except citizens or GC holders.
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mallu
02-15 02:08 PM
Some ROW folks here suddenly are saying that they like country cap quotas and there are against IV agenda.Why in the first place there should be a country cap on EB immigration ? Is it not the best and brightest in the world ? If there is FIFO implemented, how can a person in ROW will be effected by India and China as long as they meet the standards and file their petition on time.
Well said. Now if one starts to take the true diversity into account, how many chinese and indians as percentage of current US population ? ANd how many from some prominent countries of Europe ? Just curious.
Well said. Now if one starts to take the true diversity into account, how many chinese and indians as percentage of current US population ? ANd how many from some prominent countries of Europe ? Just curious.
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Rajeev
12-19 10:47 AM
Hi Varsha
I will join the conference. My e-mail address is rajeevm100@hotmail.com
I will join the conference. My e-mail address is rajeevm100@hotmail.com
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zen
04-06 08:55 PM
I know a person who was sent back; IO called the end client to verify his employment and asked if they could hire american worker instead, when the employer said they could, IO sent him back. I think they are only going after H1's working for smaller consulting companies.
You may write it off as a rumor, so be it, but IV needs to step in and take necessary action.
well if the employer is not supporting you ..then maybe the IO does have the authority to refuse ?? (well assuming that these cases are correct ..then I guess we can assume that IO has recd instructions from his superiors) it is good to hear from Pappu that IV is ready to take up this issue ...but till someone comes foward ..can IV focus on other issues like recapture, removal of country limits etc (there is no shortage of issues where focus is needed)
You may write it off as a rumor, so be it, but IV needs to step in and take necessary action.
well if the employer is not supporting you ..then maybe the IO does have the authority to refuse ?? (well assuming that these cases are correct ..then I guess we can assume that IO has recd instructions from his superiors) it is good to hear from Pappu that IV is ready to take up this issue ...but till someone comes foward ..can IV focus on other issues like recapture, removal of country limits etc (there is no shortage of issues where focus is needed)
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kumarc123
03-12 11:48 AM
I was been a donor in the past. But since then I noticed all this and have written several emails to IV asking them to convert IV access to paid donors only otherwise freeloaders like you are eating my lunch.
Dude you have only 27 posts
You have no information listed
For all the reasons, you could be bull shitter over here,
before pointing fingers take a look in the mirror.
This guys a classic
Dude you have only 27 posts
You have no information listed
For all the reasons, you could be bull shitter over here,
before pointing fingers take a look in the mirror.
This guys a classic
Openarms
08-11 03:20 PM
As far I am concerned they are one of the organizations that injected this EB2 vs EB3 allocation... at that movement they might have their own reasons... but it might change now... We kinda know where IV stands on this...
They do....
How come a person with EB2 category applied GC in 2006 doing the same thing that a EB3 person does who applied GC in 2002 gets their Green Cards approved?? Again not against any category...What in the world of kinda rationale is this is??
They do....
How come a person with EB2 category applied GC in 2006 doing the same thing that a EB3 person does who applied GC in 2002 gets their Green Cards approved?? Again not against any category...What in the world of kinda rationale is this is??
bfadlia
02-03 02:46 PM
Do you only do what IV support ? Did I say anywhere I want IV o endorse it ?
I did not mean to run you down, but was questioning whether such thread can get us anywhere.. u obviously can't do this by yourself and if u seek the support of some IV members to do something that will harm other IV members this will only divide and make us weaker in seeking a siolution that helps us all
I did not mean to run you down, but was questioning whether such thread can get us anywhere.. u obviously can't do this by yourself and if u seek the support of some IV members to do something that will harm other IV members this will only divide and make us weaker in seeking a siolution that helps us all
