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  • Rohan99
    07-28 01:03 AM
    One way to know the truth will be..
    Inform immigration law enforcement authorities about next Amway meeting place and tell them that H1B visa holders are doing illegal work... I am sure we will have some extra visa numbers


    Sure with dead bobhead braincells of yours, nobody expects your self image to be high enough. Its not for wimps wearing zippers to the side like you. If you are man enough come and talk to me, and will see who gets handcuffed.





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  • vkrishn
    07-21 02:38 PM
    Wow. Nice to see so many Bay area folks with bad experience. When i moved to Folsom, CA from Arizona in 2005 and knew no one at Folsom, I was in a Indian grocery store buying stuff and this guy comes to me and starts talking to me nicely.. At that point i did not know about this Amway Crap and infact stayed at the same apartment complex where i was staying. he invited me for tea and started talking about how to beocme your own boss etc.. Thats about it. I politely told him i am not interested and unfortuantely i gave him phone number at that time just to keep in touch and with the only reason not to be rude. He Kept on calling me 2-3 times in a week over two weeks and had to literally be very blunt and really rude to stop harassing me! Thats the end of it.

    I met a person at Great Mall in the Bay area at Bath and Body works and i did not even give him a sec to start his pleasantires. He had a blank look on his face when i told him that if you are befriending me to join you about Amway, I will go to the Police right now that you are stalking me. He left me immediatly. :)

    One of the complaints i have heard from my other friends that if they go to a new place and try to make friends , the locals think of them as related to Amway and was also rightly pointed in this thread.





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  • chanduv23
    06-27 11:36 PM
    Or maybe just present a piece of toasted bread and the locals will consider this as a good 2x2 of a miracle (...photo). Once the "belt" supports him he needs no further support. Path to citizenship will be through a "divine escalator"... ;)

    Wonder if HE would then be allowed to run for president, guess that would require a constitutional change? hmmm... interesting...


    What about Mary Magdelene? The Holy Grail is enough proof for her GC??





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  • dealsnet
    09-04 10:32 AM
    You are lucky to run away from INDIA, and have good health coverage and forgot about corruption. ;)

    JUST WORRY ABOUT GREEN CARD.:mad:


    You think you are here because of your merit. It is not my friend. My relative, who is a Doctor came here in 1940's and did higher studies, have to return back to India, because at that time USA will not give permanent residency to Indian citizens. Only whites will get GC during that period.
    Only after 1965 GC is offereed to every one irrespective of color.

    So you are LUCKY to born during this period.

    NOW YOU KNOW ABOUT POLICIES OF GOVERNMENT. GOVT. POLICY DETERMINE THE DESTINY OF THE PEOPLE.

    RAJIV give Science a boost.. PVN. RAO did open the ecomony (eventhough he is corrupt, he did a good job for India). Many Engg. Medical colleges started in late 80's and 90's.
    That is why the India developed. Many people did education in in Engg. and can come here.
    Before in Kerala only 6 Engg. colleges. Now there are more than 70 Engg. colleges and more than 15 medical colleges.
    Same happened to many Indian states including AP.



    THE DOMINATING EVIL OF BLACK MONEY.
    In the case of India, recent estimates of INDIAN (BLACK) MONEY outside India (in Countries like SWITZERLAND, )reached Rs.7.5 Million Crores (About US$1,500 Billion). Laying hands on this (Black) money is not in the power of the Indian Government.
    Black Money circulating inside India appears to be no lesser in quantity than the outside component mentioned above.
    Black money and corruption that can spread into the hitherto respected institutions like Judiciary, the Army, and the Bureaucracy in India may, one day, by moral degradation lead to a failed state. Black Money lends free access to the Criminal, Antinational, and Antisocial elements going beyond the control of the laws in place.
    To-day’s civilized world has accepted the phenomenon of hiding money in Swiss Banks as “NOT ILLEGAL” obviously because the CREAM OF SOCIETY in the world owns that money. ……..
    Government of India is not able to help honest, sincere tax payers particularly middle class families in the matter of providing quality Education, Healthcare for their families at reasonable cost. Education and Medical have become Biggest Money spinning businesses in India now. One has to shell out Rs. 30 to 50 Lakhs for a MBBS seat and about Rs. 5 to Rs.10 Lakhs for an Engineering seat in good colleges. How can middle class people can pay this money?. They are deprived of good education though, they pay taxes honestly and sincerely to government. It is really unfortunate. For people who have block money, these things do not matter
    If you have to do business in India, IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OFFICIAL TAXES MENTIONED, LOT OF BRIBES ARE TO BE GIVEN ALMOST TO EVERY DEPARTMENT IN CITY (CORPORATION), STATE (PROVINCE), AND ALSO CENTRAL GOVERNMENTS. Some examples are: Police, Municipal officials, Electricity depat.officials, weights& measures inspector, Rowdies & Goondas, Political contributions, Subscriptions/Donations to RELIGIOUS GURUS ETC.
    ALL MOST ALL THE CORRUPT OFFICIALS ARE CALLLED "PARTNERS IN BUSINESS WITHOUT CAPITAL AND COMMITMENT BUT FORCEBLY TAKE A PART OF PROFITS OF BUSINESS".
    "CORRUPTION IS A WAY OF LIFE IN BUSINESS"
    If you have to run a big company, you have to bribe many more officials. For some type of officials, WHO DO NOT TAKE CASH AS BRIBE, "GIFTS" ARE BEING GIVEN (GOLD, DRY FRUITS, VEHICLE DROPS, GUEST HOUSES ETC.) ON VARIOUS OCCATIONS, FESTIVALS ETC. ANY THING CAN BE DONE EVEN IN TIRUMALA TEMPLE, EDUCAIONAL INSTITUTIONS, MEDICAL PROFESSION WHICH ARE CONSIDERED TO BE HOLY PROFESSIONS.
    THE AMOUNT TO BE GIVEN AS "BRIBE" IN BURIAL YARD(S) IN INDIA, WHEN A PERSON DIE, FOR BURNING THE BODY, FOR GETTING DEATH CERTIFICATE, (THESE ARE IN ADDITION TO OFFICIAL FEES PAID TO MUNICIPALIIES FOR BURNING THE BODY FOR FIRE WOOD ETC.). The amount to be spend after death in India now comes to Lakhs of Rupees for doing all types of cermonies, merging ashes in Ganga at Varanasi and other holy places, giving gifts/charities to pandits, giving advertisements in newspapers, arranging feasts BHOJANALU to thousands of people (so called relatives), friends. This is in addition to LARGE SUMS OF MONEY PAID TO DOCTORS FOR SO CALLED CURING OF SICKNESS.
    In many cases, many middle class people becomes BEGGERS/PAUPERS after getting into hospitals, nursing homes etc. just before dyeing.



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  • kalyan
    12-13 01:00 PM
    Either way, be cautious and thoughtable before you fight against the state

    Also, i saw in CNN, for some (who are mexican's also), they served in US military (they are not here legallY) and got the Green Card becoz they shared the nations passion in Iraq.

    Think some thing like that here too rather than challenge the state and constitution

    If you talk with Caste like in India, may be somewhere down the line, you might ask a state for indians (which is like kashmir for muslims).





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  • CreatedToday
    09-04 02:09 PM
    It is you responded first to this news with this post, encouraging others to comment against a dead person. Also with the full name of a member revealed, it's possible that you are _truefacts!

    Now are you trying to come out clean?

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rcr_bulk
    Andhra CM YSR chopper has been missed since yesterday.

    Good for the world

    Post further discussions on websites like idlebrain, great andhra etc...

    Lets keep away from such topics
    __________________
    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world"
    - Margaret Mead

    Please stop this unnecessary useless discussion here. And I am not "_truefacts". Folks, just like how u do IT or medicine, for politicians - politics is a career. They do whatever they can to be in power and in developing countries like India where unfortunately, corrpution still exists. Corrpution exists everywhere in different forms. Don't we all pay for EAD and AP every year because our country is retrogressed? Don't we all pay for MTR when we do everything based on law?

    One has to accpept the reality and live with it and try to bring about the change within one's parameters.

    People can argue just for the sake of arguements - but the reality is that we are all in it together. If there is an issue that affects all of us, it affects all of us - period. We can argue and counter argue but unless we all get on the same page and understand that there needs to be a solution rather than trask talk, things are not going to change for us.

    Lets concentrate on what we are in this organization for.



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  • sachug22
    10-07 05:10 PM
    Sachug, it is a great attempt to compare the quarterly and annual spill overs. I made rough calculations couple of weeks ago with annual spill over. However, I assumed around 25K ROW visas(both pending and new) for EB2. And assumed only aroudn 125K for AOS keeping 15K for CP. I will compile all of my assumptions and post here. Overall, my calcs estimated EB2 move to Dec 2006. By the way, I hope you took China in to consideration for spill over.

    My numbers

    EB1 all - 17K
    EB2 ROW - 22K
    EB2-I 30K
    EB2-C 9K
    EB3 all - 40K
    EB4 all - 7K
    EB5 all - 7K

    CP - 8K

    I am assuming zero spill over from family category and lower CP numbers (no retrogress country applicant will wait for CP and new applications are low)





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  • hiralal
    05-28 11:50 PM
    Can someone tell me if this is right?

    - Total number of EB-2 visas = 40,000
    - 7% of 40,000 are allocated for India = 2,800
    - Number of EB-2 I I-485 apps pending = 30,000

    So if there is no spillover from other categories it will take north of 10 years for all the people who applied for I-485 in the July 2007 fiasco to get Green Cards. The only caveat to this would be attrition or legislation.
    That is correct !!! worse for EB3.
    I wonder why Charles or Murthy are not talking to congress to remove the country limits. I guess time has come to put "for sale" sign in my front lawn !!



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  • shensh
    02-15 11:33 AM
    No, the intention behind the 7% limit is to protect levels of European immigration and address racist fears of immigration from the 3rd world. This was also the intent behind the diversity lottery - notice the consternation that the diverisity lottery is primarily benefiting non-Europeans.
    What is the basis of your claim my friend? What is the "racist fears of immigration from the 3rd world"? Do you know that "traditional" European country such as UK is not even qualified for Diversity visa?

    Please do not spread fear based on your narrow understanding of the law. UN is right in pointing out that every law has and should have an equalizer.

    Please read this from US Dept of State:

    "Diversity visas are intended to provide an immigration opportunity for persons from countries other than the countries that send large numbers of immigrants to the U.S. The law states that no diversity visas shall be provided for natives of "high admission" countries. The law defines this to mean countries from which a total of 50,000 persons in the Family-Sponsored and Employment-Based visa categories immigrated to the United States during the period of the previous five years. Each year, the USCIS adds the family and employment immigrant admission figures for the previous five years in order to identify the countries whose natives will be ineligible for the annual diversity lottery."





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  • gimmeacard
    07-21 06:18 PM
    People can loose a lot of money in this "business"... 20K in 4 years is petty... literally.

    Once you achieve some level in this business, your "uplines" start pestering you to do 300PV every month instead of 100PV. Each PV is about $2.50 + tax + Shipping so 300PV = $800 a month. Most of this $800 stuff is at least with 300% markup and many of the things that we didn't need. So even if we take $200 as waste out of $800, in 4 years, I lost $200x12x4 = $9,600

    Now, off course no one puts a gun to your head to buy 300PV but the pressure is nothing less than that. Its very hard to explain just like hard to explain the Niagara Falls experience (this example I have used many times while contacting people).



    ..

    Thanks EbiZash for explaining the details, i hear your pain, i would had jumped off the bridge after i failed in 3 months, no matter how much pressure, i would save my shirt first.

    Its time you start hearing to your wife. i lost a good fortune in stocks too, so i am no avatar here :-)



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  • logiclife
    01-29 12:21 AM
    How do lawyers benefit from it? Thanks.

    Immigration lawyers have tendency to side with employers, not employees on the policies of legal skilled immigration. That's one reason.

    Another reason, even simpler is that labor substitution means extra business.





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  • immigrationmatters30
    07-16 08:39 PM
    ThanksGC for the reply,but what if by the time I apply for labor, I enter 6th year and if assuming labor is approved in 6 months, can I use PD from the previous employer to extend beyond 6th year. I am asking because I was under the impression, I cannot extend my H1 if I file labour in 6th year( it has to happen before I reach 6th year).But in my case I have approved labor with PD before I reach 6th year but from different employer.

    In short,Can I apply for one year extention based on my labor PD from different employer even if I file new labor from new employer after entering 6th year.


    I-140 IS NOT PORTABLE. PD is portable.
    You can get 7th year extension to your H1 transfer to caompany B based on your I-140 approval from previous compnay. You have to file new LC and I-140 from your new company and while filing I-140, you port your old PD by providing your old I-140.



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  • eb2waiter
    05-09 06:35 PM
    Did you get a job in US before you came to US. Most probably not.
    There are a lot of people who come to US blindly like students or consultants. They also landed up jobs (doing what they were meant for and not as cabbies or as janitors) and built careers.

    There are no or few body shoppers in canada because there are only a few shops :-D

    For the majority this is true in US. This is what land of opportunity means.
    It might be true for a few cases in Canada but for the majority it is false advertisement. Canada is not a land of opportunity. This is not a few of those who have been burnt talking. Try getting a job in Canada. Look at the salaries for yourselves.

    Folks am again telling this for your own benefit only. I have nothing to gain. I was not wise to do that. So thought I would guide the poor wandering souls here. Dont waste your dollars in Canada PR when you have US GC pending. It will do you no good.

    I wont post on this thread again :)

    ---DISCLAIMER: ABOVE ARE MY VIEWS ONLY AND MAY BE FALSE---





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  • villamonte6100
    12-14 02:39 PM
    I think you are taking it so personal. I am not opposing this idea. In fact, I suggested to check with your immigration lawyers and share what they say.

    All I'm saying is that, in my personal view, I don't see any discrimination on the existing law you are pointing out. I don't see anyone being discriminated. It just so happen that we belong to 4 countries affected by this quota.

    If we can ask the US government to probably give exception to us, I think that's one idea. But that's absolutely remote.

    My country of origin has got nothing to do with what we are talking here. You are taking so personal because you might have been waiting for your GC for quite sometime. Well, we are just on the same boat.

    This is an open forum my friend. So please take it easy.


    Villamonte,
    Just so that we can understand the background of your continues opposition to this idea, could you please let us know your country of origin? Also some information about which state chapter you belong to will be great if you don't mind. :)

    Thanks.



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  • irock
    09-24 04:35 PM
    I support this and sent emails yesterday.





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  • nojoke
    12-12 04:36 PM
    I don't think anything like that will happen ..first of all it is not easy at all ..definitely many will leave (especially lot of people who just crossed the borders are moving back and the joke is that they are building a wall to prevent people from leaving :)).
    but I do think that one way or the other something will happen in terms of faster immigration in the next year ..or else I don't know from where will they find so many buyers of houses ..look at this article about Georgia ,..which people kept saying -- that there is no bubble .
    (look at the print in bold ..I am still wondering if it is a misprint or real ..117 months supply of homes !!! ..the other funny point is that bankers are running after builders with hot rods :D).
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    The housing market is so bad that some banks and builders that had been business partners are now adversaries, and experts are using the dreaded �D� word.

    �In northeast Georgia we�re not in a housing recession, we�re in a housing depression,� Jim Williams, president of Southern Highlands Mortgage in Blairsville, told state lawmakers at a daylong hearing Wednesday. �The retiree market, the secondary market has all but dried up. There are no homes being built.�
    � Your guide to metro Atlanta foreclosures

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    Likewise, Eugene James, head of the Atlanta division of the research company Metrostudy, said the 22 metro counties it covers �are in a housing depression right now.�

    James said sales closings were down 44 percent for the third quarter, compared to the same period last year, and housing starts had plunged 67 percent. The metro area also has about 148,000 lots with infrastructure but no homes � a 117-month supply, he said.

    Legislators are trying to figure out what they can do to encourage home buying and rescue residential builders. The General Assembly convenes next month, and new bills might be introduced calling for tax incentives, expanded down payment assistance or reductions in home building regulations.

    �A down payment assistance obviously would be very, very beneficial to citizens,� Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle said after speaking to the joint economic development committee.

    A federal down payment assistance program ended last fall and the current state down payment assistance program, Georgia Dream, is limited.

    Sen. Chip Pearson (R-Dawsonville), co-chairman of the meeting, was intrigued by a California rescue plan that Chuck Fuhr, Ryland Homes� Atlanta division president, described.

    In the 1990s, the California Public Employees� Retirement System began making loans to home builders and investing in residential projects in order to turn around that state�s faltering housing market, Fuhr said. The CalPERS program was so successful, it expanded out of state, he said.

    �Almost every small builder I know today has his bank knocking on the door, trying to collect his loan and put him out of business,� Fuhr said. If builders continue to fold, competition will lessen and home prices will escalate, he said.

    Kurt Cannon, president of Rabun Builders and the Home Builders Association of Georgia, said at the hearing that worried bankers have turned on builders, even those with good credit, by calling in loans and threatening to sue.

    Cannon presented several pages of e-mails he�s received. A Paulding County builder wrote: �The president of the bank replied back that five of the seven bank presidents in the county had lost their jobs and he was not going to lose his. �I am going to foreclose on the property you have here. Then I am going to come after you personally and sue you for the money you owe me and everything else you have.��

    Maybe you are right. But I think that the main problem is not housing. It is the export/import imbalance, manufacturing jobs(maybe other jobs) leaving US etc. The housing boom, which was selling and buying to each other at higher and higher prices, masked the real problem in the economy. Government can do all it can to stop the house price sliding, but then what? We cannot generate economy again by buying and selling house to each other. People are asking 'where are the real jobs?'



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  • vrichards
    09-05 12:44 AM
    It seems like YSR was a very evil man. We must celebrate now that he has died.

    Good riddance to bad rubbish.





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  • prem_goel
    06-12 01:32 AM
    Guys, I've heard (and only heard - don't red me now) that Cognizant has its H-1Bs being rejected and I've heard as far as this that some of the people in Cognizant who got green card through EB-1 category have been deported due to investigation after complaints regarding misuse of EB-1 category by these companies.

    has anyone else heard the same?





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  • syendu1
    01-14 06:43 PM
    well, the people who are in eb3 and cannot do anything about it, for reasons that you quoted, i agree, it is a pity. but, you know what, "life is not fair".
    Yes life is not fair but when we get a chance to be fair we (And that includes me also) let it go by.

    it is a good thing u worry about others, and want to help them. however, when u look at those bills you mentioned and none getting passed. yes, it may look like a waste to do anything. however, we need to keep trying. with the limited resources we have, i think we should focus on "things/bills/issues" the IMPACT most people. doing something only for eb3 or eb2, in my opinion, would be even more difficult, given the progress legal immigration has made in this country. so, may be, u cud help in getting the things done that impact more people.
    What i porposed was doing something in the DV bill for badly retrogressed applicants (There wil be no reference to EB3 or EB2). Now the fact that this might help EB3 is because EB3 is the most badly retrogressed section.


    and it is ur decision not to go eb2 (even, with the resources you mentioned). have to admit, thats strange. may be u r like me, who is not obsessed with a gc. however, we live in a society, in a system (however flawed it may be), and we all try to live by those rules, try to use opportunities that are available legally and make our lives, a little better.
    You know what i was tempted to do EB2 but my sense of right and wrong prevented me. My mess up the already loaded and unstable system with another app when i already have one. Now for persons who are in EB3 (Please remove me from the equation) are thier not because they wanted to but because of the way thei whole immigration crap has evolved. Sure porting will help me out and i wil not need to justify this to anyone else but i will have to face myself. I know most people do not get it. It is doing right.

    i came to this country in 1999, i have a MS, PHD from a reputed Comp Sci program. Many people who (still) dont know much about Computer Sci. came into the dept, got their MS and have been very successful, making tons of money. i am a guy whose bs, ms and phd is in Comp Sci. i think u will find may 2 or 3 guz out of may 10, who have a degree in CS, particularly in the undergrad. i used to be very mad at all the electrical, mechanical etc guz getting software jobs. i used to hate almost all software professionals coz i thought i had to work very had for my ranks, on my gpa and on my degrees and see there are people who are making as much as i do, with none of that. slowly, but surely, i have come to terms that "life is not fair" and then, what if fellow human beings can get good jobs, whats wrong with that?? is how i started to see it, (as long as they are good enough).
    No comments there i agree with you

    what i am trying to say is please think in a global scale and help solve issues which can impact the MOST number of people and not just a minority. coz, the exceptions u stated, will be there for any issue.
    Global scale. I thought we were on scale of US. Please let me correct you EB3 is not a minority but a Majority in the EB community. just because a situation is not worth helping is not any reason to not step forward. I personally feel that IV can do something which will help EB3 because that i sthe only category which has no help from anyone. As for EB2 i have no grudges against them . You got your GC or will get it soon and all the best of luck to you, but if something can be done for EB3 it should be

    Jai Hind

    well, it is noble to do what is "right" and to always stand for it. but, i dont believe for a second porting is "wrong". u wouldn't agree though but u dont have problems when others port. i have no argument about that.

    people r in eb3, not becoz they want to. sure, i agree, given a choice, everyone will pick eb1. however, the question is, why have they been put there?? nobody forced them to. u dont qualify for other categories, u deal with it. (there may a few exceptions to that). so, i wud not feel really bad for people who had to be in eb3 (cud be lack of need qualifications or any other reasons, even things out of their control). as i said "life is not fair".

    i think it is global, aren't there ROW eb3 people who are retrogressed as well. now, u may have a point in saying that eb3 is the majority. isn't that the case anywhere. take a look at the train (first class- few people, second class - more, general -- a lot). pls dont take this example as derogatory, becoz i dont mean it that way. my intention is usually the most generic category (that which may apply to most people) is most crowded. so, doing something wud probably impact a whole number of people--which means yes, anything possible that somebody can, should and must do.

    however, that and being ahead in time, cannot be used as the only reasons to bypass eb2 and service or even share with eb3 (i think this was something proposed by some eb3 folks on this forum), i wud not agree. there were some other suggestions too, that i thought was not right. and i have already talked to you about my logic as to why.

    i just thought working towards something that applies to "ALL" would be the way to go. But, I can kind of see your point too. Best of luck in whatever you do.

    Finally, I did not answer your reply promptly as I was on my way back from work and I replied the first chance I got. (now, i'll go watch social network and relax, i have family visiting me). and thanks for wishing me for my gc. i wish the same to u.

    Jai Hind





    jayleno
    07-28 10:41 AM
    I think you are one of the most sane Amway guy I have heard from. Thanks for all the explanation. Now I know I have a problem with BWW and their approach not Amway. Looks like they are good brainbleachers.

    again, i am not with this business now but still think its a good model. it is based on word of mouth advertising, franchising, residual income - everything e-commerce (which is a subject taught at some universities). now add some short sighted people to do the teaching and BINGO.. screwed it up big time.





    thomachan72
    01-13 01:46 PM
    Long 19 page memo - but loud and clear for many scenarios -
    http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Laws/Memoranda/2010/H1B%20Employer-Employee%20Memo010810.pdf

    This memo is an eye opener especially for folks on consulting company assignments and those who are self-sponsored or who want to do their own business. Finding a new H1 sponsor would be extremely difficult as well (AC21 folks beware).

    Now getting a new H1 or a transfer or a renewal, may be subject to very stringent scrutiny.

    This memo has the potential to throw a lot of small boutique Consulting companies out of business and along with it many of their employees - whether they use H1 or not.

    Wish the best for all affected folks.
    Pray and hope the GC dream is realized faster for all.

    Best Wishes

    Please explain why these (see above) will be more difficult if you have read it. What precautions / strategy our members can take etc.