getgreensoon1
04-20 12:09 PM
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Since, last august DOL has become weird with even approving eb3 labors. Generally, attornies will put language in the eta 9089 that they will accept three years of experience for each year of bachelors degree missing (this is in line with education evaluators and uscis).
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These days USCIS is trying to stick to the rules, so all people who are trying to beat the system by using wrong credentials are getting stuck. Lawyers have nothing to lose, they will make more money from you.....one from your eb3 application and two from your high risk eb2 application which will eventually be rejected.
Since, last august DOL has become weird with even approving eb3 labors. Generally, attornies will put language in the eta 9089 that they will accept three years of experience for each year of bachelors degree missing (this is in line with education evaluators and uscis).
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These days USCIS is trying to stick to the rules, so all people who are trying to beat the system by using wrong credentials are getting stuck. Lawyers have nothing to lose, they will make more money from you.....one from your eb3 application and two from your high risk eb2 application which will eventually be rejected.
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bostonqa
06-18 11:14 AM
They will send your application back to you.Maybe some experts can opine on this
I'm not so sure about this.
I think if they en-cash your checks, they owe you an EAD and AP.
485 is a different story, they will hold your 485, but you should get an EAD and AP.
again your case should be entered into there system, and you should get a Case Number.
I'm not so sure about this.
I think if they en-cash your checks, they owe you an EAD and AP.
485 is a different story, they will hold your 485, but you should get an EAD and AP.
again your case should be entered into there system, and you should get a Case Number.
sri1309
03-17 06:42 PM
IP is banned?
I am sure he has heard of IP hiding techniques. If I were banned based on my IP, and I consistently want to post dividing threads on IV, would I not use a hidemyip plugin or post thru one of the hide my IP websites?
there has to be a different reason of banning him.
Dont give him ideas. I wouldnt ban based on IP as I know many guys from same company can be members of IV. We dont want to ban all of them.
Second, I would not ban him, instead make him part of us for a collective action. He seems to have a big group and they are planning to do somethings in which we have interests too. If his agenda if fully like those of IV or mine in my thread, then its not a bad idea to do something rather than waiting for a shubh ding for EB3 to become current or move drastically. I see no hope unless we raise our voice together.
I am sure he has heard of IP hiding techniques. If I were banned based on my IP, and I consistently want to post dividing threads on IV, would I not use a hidemyip plugin or post thru one of the hide my IP websites?
there has to be a different reason of banning him.
Dont give him ideas. I wouldnt ban based on IP as I know many guys from same company can be members of IV. We dont want to ban all of them.
Second, I would not ban him, instead make him part of us for a collective action. He seems to have a big group and they are planning to do somethings in which we have interests too. If his agenda if fully like those of IV or mine in my thread, then its not a bad idea to do something rather than waiting for a shubh ding for EB3 to become current or move drastically. I see no hope unless we raise our voice together.
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maverick6993
03-27 12:01 PM
I dont know but i am sure talking to him wont harm. Also i had read about a guy who started a company and was stuck in India because of H1 stamping delays. I am searching for the article.
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sravani
05-13 01:37 PM
Sorry to hear about such cases. We all have to realize one thing here. The employers need us equally bad as we need them (more often than not, not talking about Indian consultancies here). If ever one encounters such racial discrimination and open abuse at the work place, the best recourse is to file a complaint with the higher ups in the HR, start searching for another employer and ditch the current racist employer at the right moment with an appropriate email sent to everyone detailing why the person is leaving at such an important phase of the product development. Yeah, this might sound un-ethical, but sometimes situations do demand such drastic measures to send the right message. That's when all these racist employers would realize the importance of the person that just left the company. Then they can try to fill in the position with their preferred race qualified person and see how difficult that gets!!
Better still, please talk to your friends and family in other parts of the US and find the areas in the US that are cosmopolitan and try to move to those places. Yeah that is very difficult in the short-term, but in the long-run, you would have peace of mind and a good quality of life after making such a move. Fortunately, i am in the Bay area and i have rarely encountered such racial prejudices out here. Just my two cents.
Good luck.
Thanks for your advise and i agree with your thoughts.
I thought of leaving this company several times, but I am working in this company for 6 years and the only company I worked after coming to USA. I invested so much for this company, like working beyond work hours, working in the weekends, making up the project deadlines for the incompetitive colleagues etc. etc. and now just waiting for my Green Card. There were so many times I thought if I get my Green Card I am going to leave this moment. Years passing by and with this retrogression thing, there is very little hope of getting it soon...
The positive thing is, my direct supervisor is very nice and I can voice my opinion and she understands me and completely supports me. I am just praying god that I should keep working for her till I get the GC.
Better still, please talk to your friends and family in other parts of the US and find the areas in the US that are cosmopolitan and try to move to those places. Yeah that is very difficult in the short-term, but in the long-run, you would have peace of mind and a good quality of life after making such a move. Fortunately, i am in the Bay area and i have rarely encountered such racial prejudices out here. Just my two cents.
Good luck.
Thanks for your advise and i agree with your thoughts.
I thought of leaving this company several times, but I am working in this company for 6 years and the only company I worked after coming to USA. I invested so much for this company, like working beyond work hours, working in the weekends, making up the project deadlines for the incompetitive colleagues etc. etc. and now just waiting for my Green Card. There were so many times I thought if I get my Green Card I am going to leave this moment. Years passing by and with this retrogression thing, there is very little hope of getting it soon...
The positive thing is, my direct supervisor is very nice and I can voice my opinion and she understands me and completely supports me. I am just praying god that I should keep working for her till I get the GC.
GCKaMaara
01-13 02:51 PM
Slow movement as expected. Hope dates move faster in the months ahead.
Hey Pappu,
What happened to your cool Avatar?
Hey Pappu,
What happened to your cool Avatar?
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intezar2005
10-18 03:41 PM
Infopass and Expedite on ph did not work. My congressman office helped me to expedite AP . Mine and my wife's AP got approved even though we requested expeidited only for my wife's AP.
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ivar
09-14 05:26 AM
My Priority date is April 09, I don't have I-140 and no EAD ofcourse. I bought a house last year.. whatever you say, i want to live every moment of my life. While coming to US 5 years back i came with just $500 never thought that i will stay in my own house one day in US.. I want to enjoy every moment of it. In future i am not sure what will happen you can't plan everything, atleast in my case, my plans never work out because destiny always plays its part and the plan gets Fcuk up. I don't want to rely on GC or EAD for happiness because its destiny.. if i am destined to get it i will get one day else forget it... i will go back.. If i had to get GC i would have got it long time back.. me and my friend applied for labor in Mar 06 he got is GC last year... but i am still stuck with my new PERM.. so there is no point in holding back your happiness.. just do what makes you happy.. after all it depends on each individual. Initially i did the same thing rented an apartment saved money and use to watch visa bulletins... its time to live life the way i want.
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PavanV
10-11 01:01 AM
BharatPremi,
Looks like we are in minority :), I guess people need to be educated about legalities of the immigration system, just because one applies for a green card , or one gets a Green card, he/she does not become part of the country.
Please remember this folks, till you become citizens you are still representing your home country :), and BharatPremi mentioned US of A only expects that you don't indulge in any activities that the government lists as against the US of A, after all we are all here only because the country allowed us in because they perceive there is a need for high skilled labor, letting us contribute and at the same time benefit from this huge economy,we are at their discretion legally, and they can show us the door just as the way it was opened to let us in, just because you are here does not mean you can demand rights :) and call this your home country, that is what the illegals do. I am sorry for sounding so depressing, I witnessed a mass layoff at my company and a lot of my friends (Americans) who are very senior folks were let go, I was spared, somehow that is hurting my conscience, and I am not in a position either to voluntarily give up my job.I want everybody to be happy, and prosper, layoffs reflect the ugly side of capitalism, the weak and old are exploited.
All the best in your immigration process folks, you will need all the luck to stay here.
Sarve jano sukhino bava (Let everybody be happy)
Can you please provide us any link or legal constitutional document from any legal organization in India and USA which states that Patriotic Indian ( For the sake of argument Indian) should not apply for US Green Card ( Permanent residency)? Or for that matter can you legally proove that not applying for US GC is the barometer of patriotism towards India for an Indian?
Do you have any reading comprehension capabilities?
Read the first sentence of following link and let me know what do you comprehend?
Your lesson for US immigration starts from here.
USCIS - Green Card (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=ae853ad15c673210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCR D&vgnextchannel=ae853ad15c673210VgnVCM100000082ca60a RCRD)
Best Luck.
Looks like we are in minority :), I guess people need to be educated about legalities of the immigration system, just because one applies for a green card , or one gets a Green card, he/she does not become part of the country.
Please remember this folks, till you become citizens you are still representing your home country :), and BharatPremi mentioned US of A only expects that you don't indulge in any activities that the government lists as against the US of A, after all we are all here only because the country allowed us in because they perceive there is a need for high skilled labor, letting us contribute and at the same time benefit from this huge economy,we are at their discretion legally, and they can show us the door just as the way it was opened to let us in, just because you are here does not mean you can demand rights :) and call this your home country, that is what the illegals do. I am sorry for sounding so depressing, I witnessed a mass layoff at my company and a lot of my friends (Americans) who are very senior folks were let go, I was spared, somehow that is hurting my conscience, and I am not in a position either to voluntarily give up my job.I want everybody to be happy, and prosper, layoffs reflect the ugly side of capitalism, the weak and old are exploited.
All the best in your immigration process folks, you will need all the luck to stay here.
Sarve jano sukhino bava (Let everybody be happy)
Can you please provide us any link or legal constitutional document from any legal organization in India and USA which states that Patriotic Indian ( For the sake of argument Indian) should not apply for US Green Card ( Permanent residency)? Or for that matter can you legally proove that not applying for US GC is the barometer of patriotism towards India for an Indian?
Do you have any reading comprehension capabilities?
Read the first sentence of following link and let me know what do you comprehend?
Your lesson for US immigration starts from here.
USCIS - Green Card (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=ae853ad15c673210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCR D&vgnextchannel=ae853ad15c673210VgnVCM100000082ca60a RCRD)
Best Luck.
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pdakwala
02-25 05:43 PM
Hello everyone,
Three people from CA team went to Livermore temple today. We have distributed approximately (650 + 250 = 900) today at livermore temple. At around 1.45 p.m. we were told to stop distributing the flyer since it is against the temple policy.
One of the individual had his whole family working on distributing the flyers. After he left, two people did the same thing and there was not a single person or the car in the Temple who had not IV flyers.
We have found following things:
1. Not too many people are aware of IV.
2. Not too many people care about the Retrogression problem because they do not know what retrogression is and how it would affect them.
3. No body knows about the comprehensive immigration refrom bill.
4. No body know how the bills are introduce in the senate and house.
It is very important to spread the word about the IV and tell them to support us by contributing money.
People wake up. It's show time.
Cheers
Pratik
Three people from CA team went to Livermore temple today. We have distributed approximately (650 + 250 = 900) today at livermore temple. At around 1.45 p.m. we were told to stop distributing the flyer since it is against the temple policy.
One of the individual had his whole family working on distributing the flyers. After he left, two people did the same thing and there was not a single person or the car in the Temple who had not IV flyers.
We have found following things:
1. Not too many people are aware of IV.
2. Not too many people care about the Retrogression problem because they do not know what retrogression is and how it would affect them.
3. No body knows about the comprehensive immigration refrom bill.
4. No body know how the bills are introduce in the senate and house.
It is very important to spread the word about the IV and tell them to support us by contributing money.
People wake up. It's show time.
Cheers
Pratik
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chanduv23
06-12 01:26 PM
Your frustration is understandable. But, the reason for such a situation is not because of IV.
Things are not working for a lot of people and yes, things are very very difficult.
Behind thee scenes IV is building a strong organization. People approach IV saying they can help in all possible ways, IV coordinator talks to them and coordinates efforts.
Lots of efforts are happening in background.
Fresh new ideas are welcome and initiatives are also welcome. Today I started a new campaign along with a team dedicated for this. Behind the scenes I picked some real good members , talked to them and everyone are charged up to do something.
On an open forum all IV can say isJoj a state chapter, donate to IV.
So if you are interested, contact IV and someone will connect with you
Things are not working for a lot of people and yes, things are very very difficult.
Behind thee scenes IV is building a strong organization. People approach IV saying they can help in all possible ways, IV coordinator talks to them and coordinates efforts.
Lots of efforts are happening in background.
Fresh new ideas are welcome and initiatives are also welcome. Today I started a new campaign along with a team dedicated for this. Behind the scenes I picked some real good members , talked to them and everyone are charged up to do something.
On an open forum all IV can say isJoj a state chapter, donate to IV.
So if you are interested, contact IV and someone will connect with you
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Marphad
07-29 06:06 PM
Great job of keeping idea live ;)
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Berkeleybee
04-26 07:33 PM
http://www.steinreport.com/archives/009150.html
Unfortunately that report just shows that we are now on the radar of FAIR, a a very aggressive anti-immigrant group. Google to learn more about FAIR.
Did you read the title and the comment?
Of course, this is not surprising, that anti-immigrants are furious to discover that we have anything to do with Congress.
Unfortunately that report just shows that we are now on the radar of FAIR, a a very aggressive anti-immigrant group. Google to learn more about FAIR.
Did you read the title and the comment?
Of course, this is not surprising, that anti-immigrants are furious to discover that we have anything to do with Congress.
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seeker
05-24 08:16 AM
Bad for consulting companies (no H1B; may lose job)
Bad for physicians (no H1B for medical residents; no provisions for NIW...terrible)
Bad for H1b transfers and extensions (severe restrictive provisions on H1B)
AC 21 repealed (disastrous)
Bad for pending I 140 .... left in limbo
Bad for pending LC .... left in complete limbo
Bad for retrogressed.... backlog will increase phenomenally 'cos of decreased visa numbers
This bill is a massive attack on us; we should put all our efforts to oppose and kill the bill. There is little chance that we can get amendments to reverse the potential damage that this bill can do... that is disaster for us.
Bad for physicians (no H1B for medical residents; no provisions for NIW...terrible)
Bad for H1b transfers and extensions (severe restrictive provisions on H1B)
AC 21 repealed (disastrous)
Bad for pending I 140 .... left in limbo
Bad for pending LC .... left in complete limbo
Bad for retrogressed.... backlog will increase phenomenally 'cos of decreased visa numbers
This bill is a massive attack on us; we should put all our efforts to oppose and kill the bill. There is little chance that we can get amendments to reverse the potential damage that this bill can do... that is disaster for us.
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imh1b
05-07 02:37 PM
I will try my best to come. I also pledge $151 for this event.
Good Job IV. Happy to know that we are doing something so big.
Good Job IV. Happy to know that we are doing something so big.
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Jaime
09-22 03:45 PM
This is easy, practical and may be more effective.
Co-ordinate working round-the-clock (24 hours non-stop) wherever, in whatever organization/immigation community is working.Let it be coast-to-coast. let the work start as usual on friday morning at 8am and end at 8.am on saturday. Employers will be happy and we can win enormous support. Send simultaneous cards to uscis/law makers.
Wow, nice idea....!!
Co-ordinate working round-the-clock (24 hours non-stop) wherever, in whatever organization/immigation community is working.Let it be coast-to-coast. let the work start as usual on friday morning at 8am and end at 8.am on saturday. Employers will be happy and we can win enormous support. Send simultaneous cards to uscis/law makers.
Wow, nice idea....!!
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pappu
03-09 11:56 AM
Not much good news for EB2 and EB3 India. I hope folks realize and do the lobby day seriously.
Here is the timeline for folks that are not serious
EB2 India: Waiting for July - October spillovers thinking that most EB2 will be current. The prediction threads have hyped this a lot. Many will benefit this year. But many will miss this bus too. Some from those who will miss this bus, would be back wanting to do something in Nov - May timeframe. Others will waste their time on predictions and trackers and make those site owners rich.
EB3 India: Many who filed in July 2007 are still happy with EAD status. They worry and contact IV only if their I140 is revoked, I485 denied or if EAD renewal is delayed. Some still sulk or want to blame someone (even IV) for their delays. Those who have not filed I485 yet are few in number. Many new Eb3s still do not know the extent of the backlogs. With time they will slowly learn about the backlogs and wait times. When they suffer due to lack of EAD, they will all make noise on IV asking for some action. This is the reason why the I485 filing action item thread is still weak and pre-mature. I would give another 2 years for the non-I485 folks to have retrogression sink in.
Retrogression is not going away. If it goes away, only applicants will benefit from it. And these applicants are too weak and small in number to even raise their voice. So why would anyone pass a law to make these people happy that do not even want any law changed. After 2 years all the folks who are not participating in advocacy days and contributing, will contribute to IV. At that time, if we in core are still around, would rather ask them to lead the effort if they can and if they are really serious. The current advocacy day campaign and contributions are a measure of seriousness for us to plan our next agenda items.
Here is the timeline for folks that are not serious
EB2 India: Waiting for July - October spillovers thinking that most EB2 will be current. The prediction threads have hyped this a lot. Many will benefit this year. But many will miss this bus too. Some from those who will miss this bus, would be back wanting to do something in Nov - May timeframe. Others will waste their time on predictions and trackers and make those site owners rich.
EB3 India: Many who filed in July 2007 are still happy with EAD status. They worry and contact IV only if their I140 is revoked, I485 denied or if EAD renewal is delayed. Some still sulk or want to blame someone (even IV) for their delays. Those who have not filed I485 yet are few in number. Many new Eb3s still do not know the extent of the backlogs. With time they will slowly learn about the backlogs and wait times. When they suffer due to lack of EAD, they will all make noise on IV asking for some action. This is the reason why the I485 filing action item thread is still weak and pre-mature. I would give another 2 years for the non-I485 folks to have retrogression sink in.
Retrogression is not going away. If it goes away, only applicants will benefit from it. And these applicants are too weak and small in number to even raise their voice. So why would anyone pass a law to make these people happy that do not even want any law changed. After 2 years all the folks who are not participating in advocacy days and contributing, will contribute to IV. At that time, if we in core are still around, would rather ask them to lead the effort if they can and if they are really serious. The current advocacy day campaign and contributions are a measure of seriousness for us to plan our next agenda items.
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Marphad
03-17 03:21 PM
Thanks for inputs in the forums.
EB3-India cannot be discriminated.
Anyone in EB3 after 2-3 years waiting is qualified under EB2-I. And we see people waiting for much more. How can we be discriminated then. We have to do something.
We are able to get very good number of people with like minds in Edison, NJ and other big cities with big concentration. We are planning to start a drive against this discrimination, in about 2-3 weeks from now. We would like to write to the honorable policitians and processing centers like Texas and others and to USCIS to treat all fairly.
1. EB3 India cannot be treated unfairly, wheras EB3-China is much ahead. Why is this.
2. EB2-India is Feb 2004, wheras EB3 India is Nov 2001 for many years. Why is this.
3. Why are allowing family immigration when skilled immigrants are waiting.
4. Why should greencards be counted head-wise, whereas H visas are not.
5. On the whole, why backlogs and punishing us.
These are the lines in which our group plan to drive this.,send more ideas.
For this we need money and more impo'ly efforts, so please contribute smartly as we request below.
We have teams in all major software hubs like NJ, DC, Livermore, CA, TX, Detroit, and and will need volunteers. We will soon come up with a yahoogroup to communicate.
We plan to send 10,000 letters and other awareness programs letters to the concerned people.
We plan to have our small booths in temples where many people will come.
We will print all the letters, you just need to buy the stamp from us and mail it.
Or give us an envelope with the 42c stamp. We need about 5-10 from you all.. So its will be $5.00 per head. That way there will be no quesiton of transparency. But if you want to donate more, you are welcome, instead we will prefer you put your efforts in creating strenghr and pass the word.
We cannot keep quite like this. There is no reason why EB3-India will move forward in current situations and with current rules.
We know EB2 will be upset, but based on your contribution, we can fight together, else we will go alone. EB3 is big enough to go by itself.
We plan to wear white dress with white caps.. for peace.. So we can be easily spotted. Give us a envelopes and stamps.. or we will give you addresses to send and the document.. As you wish...Or buy the stamps from us and take the printed content from us in free envelopes.
We want to do this as IV right?
Sorry for my ignorance but just curious, why exactly this guy is banned?
EB3-India cannot be discriminated.
Anyone in EB3 after 2-3 years waiting is qualified under EB2-I. And we see people waiting for much more. How can we be discriminated then. We have to do something.
We are able to get very good number of people with like minds in Edison, NJ and other big cities with big concentration. We are planning to start a drive against this discrimination, in about 2-3 weeks from now. We would like to write to the honorable policitians and processing centers like Texas and others and to USCIS to treat all fairly.
1. EB3 India cannot be treated unfairly, wheras EB3-China is much ahead. Why is this.
2. EB2-India is Feb 2004, wheras EB3 India is Nov 2001 for many years. Why is this.
3. Why are allowing family immigration when skilled immigrants are waiting.
4. Why should greencards be counted head-wise, whereas H visas are not.
5. On the whole, why backlogs and punishing us.
These are the lines in which our group plan to drive this.,send more ideas.
For this we need money and more impo'ly efforts, so please contribute smartly as we request below.
We have teams in all major software hubs like NJ, DC, Livermore, CA, TX, Detroit, and and will need volunteers. We will soon come up with a yahoogroup to communicate.
We plan to send 10,000 letters and other awareness programs letters to the concerned people.
We plan to have our small booths in temples where many people will come.
We will print all the letters, you just need to buy the stamp from us and mail it.
Or give us an envelope with the 42c stamp. We need about 5-10 from you all.. So its will be $5.00 per head. That way there will be no quesiton of transparency. But if you want to donate more, you are welcome, instead we will prefer you put your efforts in creating strenghr and pass the word.
We cannot keep quite like this. There is no reason why EB3-India will move forward in current situations and with current rules.
We know EB2 will be upset, but based on your contribution, we can fight together, else we will go alone. EB3 is big enough to go by itself.
We plan to wear white dress with white caps.. for peace.. So we can be easily spotted. Give us a envelopes and stamps.. or we will give you addresses to send and the document.. As you wish...Or buy the stamps from us and take the printed content from us in free envelopes.
We want to do this as IV right?
Sorry for my ignorance but just curious, why exactly this guy is banned?
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chanduv23
07-10 07:46 AM
Can anyone recommend attorney who are good in AC21 and I-485 Motion To Reopen cases. Who is better, muthy or Oh law firm, or Ron Gotcher ? I am confused as to whose services I should take knowing that my I-140 will be revoked and if I have to file MTR.
Try Rajiv Khanna too.
Try Rajiv Khanna too.
sayantan76
04-07 09:32 AM
If I could hire IV by paying some money and then forget about it, i would do that. However, as far as I know, IV core is composed of regular folks who are also on visas and therefore can only work during their spare time/vaccation time. I know every one of us is impatient with this EB process, but the reality is our movment is not big/strong enough. Most of us once we get hold of the Green card (is it really green color??) completely forget that we were once part of an everlasting que with so many desperate people.
This is the main difference between EB community and the ilegals. Ilegals are united by a lot of factors and even their legal relatives dont think twice before struggling/fighting for them. How many of our dear Indian/chinese friends (who are citizens of this nation) will stand up for us??? Even though many came here and strugled to obtain the EB green card, now we are alien to them!!!
Consider the ilegal people:-
theoratically, they are not supposed to have any voice in this nation simply because they are ilegals and hiding from the law. How come then that they are able to have such a huge protest march?? because most of the people who protested for them and stand up for them are legals
We will be 100 times more successful if the major indian associations/chinese associations or other country associations raise the voice for us. They should "BECOME HUMAN BEINGS ONCE AGAIN" and feel for us. We should remind them once again of the strange and long path many of them went through to get the GC.
HOW COME THEY IGNORE US???? IF THEY IGNORE US, WHO WILL CONSIDER US???
IV??? my friends IV core member is a person of leadership quality for sure, but he/she is just in the same unstable boat as me and you.
WE DESPERATELY NEED FOLKS IN THE MAIN LAND TO REACH OUT TO US.
you have answered your own question.......the way the demographics are today - there are many families which are part legal and part illegal in terms of their immigration status - the motivation there is to bring close relatives (and even immediate family members) over to the legal side.......
in case of EB - typically (barring some technical exceptions) the immediate family gets the GC at the same time - so the immediate family situation is not critical. If these people want to bring in their families - then thats FB immigration and not EB.
Besides, FB immigration and to a large extent "illegal to legal" (whenever that happens) is a template driven process (if you meeting certain basic guidelines and do not have any criminal background etc - you are in - it is not upto the discretion of an immigration officer to reject a citizen's wife or father or mother on a case by case basis) - whereas EB is a fairly case by case evaluation process........hence its simpler to coin a message that resonates with the vast majority of the interested population on the non-EB side vs on the EB side (whats good for Indians may not be good for RoW and whats good for EB2 may not be good for EB3, direct employees vs consultants, 3 year degrees vs 4 year degrees, foreign degrees vs US degreess, STEM vs non STEM etc)........
You tend to think like a group and root for the group when you suffer as a group........as much as many people on this forum would like to highlight otherwise - i think every EB story is different, every situation is different, even the extent of suffering and inconvenience is different and hence there is no "group feeling" - we are not a "herd" and hence do not act like an "herd".......
To be brutally honest, I have had my GC for two years now, have not really had to wait for a long time either nor is the IV agenda really relevant for me (IV does not really focus on EB1) - i continue to visit the site to keep myself updated because I am concerned (as a well wisher not as an activist) and would like my friends to get their GCs asap! But, among the 100 other "human being like activies" that keep me busy (keeping my job, paying my bills, cleaning the house on weekends, not gaining any more weight with middle age approaching etc.) - do i have time to actually do something (beyond the faxes etc that we sometimes send to senators) - NOT REALLY.
If you poll most people with GCs and new Citizens who came through the EB route - i have a feeling that a large number would give the above answer in their truthful moments.
This is the main difference between EB community and the ilegals. Ilegals are united by a lot of factors and even their legal relatives dont think twice before struggling/fighting for them. How many of our dear Indian/chinese friends (who are citizens of this nation) will stand up for us??? Even though many came here and strugled to obtain the EB green card, now we are alien to them!!!
Consider the ilegal people:-
theoratically, they are not supposed to have any voice in this nation simply because they are ilegals and hiding from the law. How come then that they are able to have such a huge protest march?? because most of the people who protested for them and stand up for them are legals
We will be 100 times more successful if the major indian associations/chinese associations or other country associations raise the voice for us. They should "BECOME HUMAN BEINGS ONCE AGAIN" and feel for us. We should remind them once again of the strange and long path many of them went through to get the GC.
HOW COME THEY IGNORE US???? IF THEY IGNORE US, WHO WILL CONSIDER US???
IV??? my friends IV core member is a person of leadership quality for sure, but he/she is just in the same unstable boat as me and you.
WE DESPERATELY NEED FOLKS IN THE MAIN LAND TO REACH OUT TO US.
you have answered your own question.......the way the demographics are today - there are many families which are part legal and part illegal in terms of their immigration status - the motivation there is to bring close relatives (and even immediate family members) over to the legal side.......
in case of EB - typically (barring some technical exceptions) the immediate family gets the GC at the same time - so the immediate family situation is not critical. If these people want to bring in their families - then thats FB immigration and not EB.
Besides, FB immigration and to a large extent "illegal to legal" (whenever that happens) is a template driven process (if you meeting certain basic guidelines and do not have any criminal background etc - you are in - it is not upto the discretion of an immigration officer to reject a citizen's wife or father or mother on a case by case basis) - whereas EB is a fairly case by case evaluation process........hence its simpler to coin a message that resonates with the vast majority of the interested population on the non-EB side vs on the EB side (whats good for Indians may not be good for RoW and whats good for EB2 may not be good for EB3, direct employees vs consultants, 3 year degrees vs 4 year degrees, foreign degrees vs US degreess, STEM vs non STEM etc)........
You tend to think like a group and root for the group when you suffer as a group........as much as many people on this forum would like to highlight otherwise - i think every EB story is different, every situation is different, even the extent of suffering and inconvenience is different and hence there is no "group feeling" - we are not a "herd" and hence do not act like an "herd".......
To be brutally honest, I have had my GC for two years now, have not really had to wait for a long time either nor is the IV agenda really relevant for me (IV does not really focus on EB1) - i continue to visit the site to keep myself updated because I am concerned (as a well wisher not as an activist) and would like my friends to get their GCs asap! But, among the 100 other "human being like activies" that keep me busy (keeping my job, paying my bills, cleaning the house on weekends, not gaining any more weight with middle age approaching etc.) - do i have time to actually do something (beyond the faxes etc that we sometimes send to senators) - NOT REALLY.
If you poll most people with GCs and new Citizens who came through the EB route - i have a feeling that a large number would give the above answer in their truthful moments.
dummgelauft
03-17 11:39 AM
I have an Idea, instead of all of us spending time in making useless predictions, why not engage an astrologer from India, pay him a few hundred dollars, create him an account and have him run the "Bulletin Patra" (Like Janam Patra) every month?
